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Monday, August 3, 2009

Current Events Club: Immigration

Hello current events boffins!

You may recently have heard us members of Delavigne's Current Events Club discussing our views on immigration. Even if you didn't, you might have some opinions on the matter: and we'd love to hear them!

Personally, I've had a pretty hard time coming to work legally in the States (I'm a British citizen, in case you were wondering about my accent!). It's been very stressful, but things are now sorted at last. However, I do think that the immigration laws here in the USA are too strict, and should be relaxed... How about you?

I look forward to reading your comments!

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11 Comments:

Anonymous roifree said...

I don't know about the law of immigration in USA,( I heard it's softer than Europe,) because I live in France. I know it's vrey difficult to immigrate in Europe, especially in France. Now I rencently lost my job, unemployee. It's very hard to find a job in France. It's just a problem of time for me to have the GreenCard in France. I wish the Greencard and the job would not be a problem for the foreigner.

August 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM  
Anonymous roifree said...

I don't know about the law of immigration in USA,( I heard it's softer than Europe,) because I live in France. I know it's vrey difficult to immigrate in Europe, especially in France. Now I rencently lost my job, unemployee. It's very hard to find a job in France. It's just a problem of time for me to have the GreenCard in France. I wish the Greencard and the job would not be a problem for the foreigner.

August 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM  
Anonymous Hannah Benedict said...

Oh dear roifree, that does sound like a very stressful situation. I hope everything works out for you in the end!

August 7, 2009 at 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Hannah Benedict said...

Oh dear roifree, that does sound like a very stressful situation. I hope everything works out for you in the end!

August 7, 2009 at 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Gee said...

It comes as a surprise to me that you, Hannah, a Briton, citizen of the closest nation to the US, have had a hard time to go and work legally in the States.
In the late nineties I hosted in Brussels for 2 or 3 months a young Czech couple on their way to the States. They had just a mere formality to achieve with the US ambassy (namely to commit themselves to attend some courses on US history and American language). They are now genuine American citizen living in LA. If you had some troubles to enter the country, that's for sure the fallouts of the 9/11.

If roifree has got difficulties to get a Greencard in France, it must be mainly due to the current lack of work due to the economic recession and the conservative right-wing policy of Sarko. In Italy the strengthening of the legal measures against immigration is the repercussions of massive immigration from Africa - and the right-wing policy of Berlusconi as well.

From a theoretical point of view, I think migration of people are beneficial for moving forward to a united world population. Of course it mustn't be immigrant groups settling aside in an area and sort of creating a ghetto with cultural habbits of their country of origin without anyhow integrating in the hosting country. In ideal conditions immigrant people will be providing natives with a different way of living and thinking. If not, natives should keep being unaware of the stereotypes of their own community. I am here theorizing, and it's easier said than done. Just let's think the centuries American needed for slowly getting rid of racial segregation - if they all did yet? For the roots of racism are inside each of us. A sassy white wattman, a ditzy blonde, a cool black daily maid we are going along in our everyday life are looked at as different from ourself. In fact, we are racist to the bottom of our mind. I'd report what said Raina Kelley, a black female American journalist in Newsweek, . She was attending a barbecue in LA and the party was exclusively populated by a particular type of television writer. But she was taken aback when a young black gentleman entered the festivities. She got scared that the newcomer was a crack-crazed Crip out for honky blood. But she soon realized he wasn't. He was Dave and she eventually spent the evening agreeing with his every word and laughing at his jokes. The same goes with immigrants and natives, but it takes a long time to mutual understanding.

August 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Gee said...

It comes as a surprise to me that you, Hannah, a Briton, citizen of the closest nation to the US, have had a hard time to go and work legally in the States.
In the late nineties I hosted in Brussels for 2 or 3 months a young Czech couple on their way to the States. They had just a mere formality to achieve with the US ambassy (namely to commit themselves to attend some courses on US history and American language). They are now genuine American citizen living in LA. If you had some troubles to enter the country, that's for sure the fallouts of the 9/11.

If roifree has got difficulties to get a Greencard in France, it must be mainly due to the current lack of work due to the economic recession and the conservative right-wing policy of Sarko. In Italy the strengthening of the legal measures against immigration is the repercussions of massive immigration from Africa - and the right-wing policy of Berlusconi as well.

From a theoretical point of view, I think migration of people are beneficial for moving forward to a united world population. Of course it mustn't be immigrant groups settling aside in an area and sort of creating a ghetto with cultural habbits of their country of origin without anyhow integrating in the hosting country. In ideal conditions immigrant people will be providing natives with a different way of living and thinking. If not, natives should keep being unaware of the stereotypes of their own community. I am here theorizing, and it's easier said than done. Just let's think the centuries American needed for slowly getting rid of racial segregation - if they all did yet? For the roots of racism are inside each of us. A sassy white wattman, a ditzy blonde, a cool black daily maid we are going along in our everyday life are looked at as different from ourself. In fact, we are racist to the bottom of our mind. I'd report what said Raina Kelley, a black female American journalist in Newsweek, . She was attending a barbecue in LA and the party was exclusively populated by a particular type of television writer. But she was taken aback when a young black gentleman entered the festivities. She got scared that the newcomer was a crack-crazed Crip out for honky blood. But she soon realized he wasn't. He was Dave and she eventually spent the evening agreeing with his every word and laughing at his jokes. The same goes with immigrants and natives, but it takes a long time to mutual understanding.

August 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Brian Jones said...

Here's an interesting article, written by someone very close to the Delavigne Corporation...
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1915753,00.html

Would a test like this help immigrant people integrate in their host country?

August 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM  
Anonymous Brian Jones said...

Here's an interesting article, written by someone very close to the Delavigne Corporation...
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1915753,00.html

Would a test like this help immigrant people integrate in their host country?

August 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM  
Anonymous Gee said...

I switched to the TIME site to read that article by Gaelle Faure. You said, Brian, that the author was close to the Delavigne Corporation. I am flabbergasted at learning that the Time is hiring reporters who move around in a fictitious world.

The British Empire is badly declining from its fame of the old days, it is declining politically and economically. That doesn't stop Britons to be fond of pomp, not only with their queen but, as the article points out, also by setting up ceremonies for people succeeding in passing the naturalization trials. I wonder whether there is a connection between the decline of the Kingdom and the bills put on the table to discourage foreigners to claim for being certified British citizens.
The road to becoming British is made longer and harder by a new stage of tests. In human sciences - as here in political and social field - tests are not that reliable as they are in exact sciences. If Gaelle Faure is moving around in the Delavigne milieu, she has for sure a lot of better ideas she had better give to British politicians, like for instance shooting a picture of the person applying for naturalization and afterwards morphing his face so as to shape it into the standard stereotyped British citizen look.

August 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM  
Anonymous Gee said...

I switched to the TIME site to read that article by Gaelle Faure. You said, Brian, that the author was close to the Delavigne Corporation. I am flabbergasted at learning that the Time is hiring reporters who move around in a fictitious world.

The British Empire is badly declining from its fame of the old days, it is declining politically and economically. That doesn't stop Britons to be fond of pomp, not only with their queen but, as the article points out, also by setting up ceremonies for people succeeding in passing the naturalization trials. I wonder whether there is a connection between the decline of the Kingdom and the bills put on the table to discourage foreigners to claim for being certified British citizens.
The road to becoming British is made longer and harder by a new stage of tests. In human sciences - as here in political and social field - tests are not that reliable as they are in exact sciences. If Gaelle Faure is moving around in the Delavigne milieu, she has for sure a lot of better ideas she had better give to British politicians, like for instance shooting a picture of the person applying for naturalization and afterwards morphing his face so as to shape it into the standard stereotyped British citizen look.

August 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM  
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